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What about non businesses, like nonprofits, hobbyist groups, or individuals offering a service out of their own charity?

They have dropped all the decision making for the details in the lap of the politically controlled FTC. Which also means that future FTCs could change the rules based on political goals.

Come join us on what I will call the “scatternet”, the globally distributed, offline-first, async network full of all the things that made the old Internet great.

Save a few ISOs of still-free OSes and hoard a few extra cheap computers. (You might also want to get a 10Mhz capable radio.)


BBS was born, BBS has risen, BBS will come again.

Why the 10 MHz radio?

For sporadic medium-long distance communication over packet radio. 10MHz isn’t too crowded and can be easily used for regional communications (and occasionally long distance) via atmospheric bounce. It also works well at low power and the antenna is shorter than other long distance modes like the longer wave HF bands (20m+).

Are you thinking of 100mhz (3m)?

Sending data by radio is messy, slow, and generally disappointing. Start your journey by reading up on the Aloha system https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ALOHAnet.


My apologies, I meant 10m (28 MHz). Brain fart. It’s slow but it’s more than adequate for text, and range is excellent (hundreds of miles).

Running a network of old school BBS's over radio would be great

This bill requires actual verification and leaves it up to the politically controlled FTC to determine how this should happen. It’s a disaster.

> The Parents Decide Act solves the self-reported-birthday problem by demanding something verifiable, which in practice means a government ID, a credit card, a biometric scan, or some combination.

> However, Gottheimer has not specified which. The bill does not either. It’s up to the FTC to decide.


The article's analysis doesn't appear to be accurate. From the bill:

(a) Requirements.—An operating system provider, with respect to any operating system of such provider, shall carry out the following:

(1) Require any user of the operating system to provide the date of birth of the user in order to—

(A) set up an account on the operating system; and

(B) use the operating system.

(2) If the relevant user of the operating system is under 18 years of age, require a parent or legal guardian of the user to verify the date of birth of the user.

(3) Develop a system to allow an app developer to access any information as is necessary, collected by the operating system to carry out this section and any regulation promulgated under this section, to verify the date of birth of a user of an app of the app developer.

The only requirement for "verification" is to enter a birthdate on account set up, and underage accounts have the parent "verify" the birthdate. There is certainly some ambiguity in the bill which is not good, but efforts should be towards resolving the ambiguity in favor of a lack of intrusiveness.


Verification is explicitly required.

(d) Regulations.—

(1) IN GENERAL.—Not later than 180 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Commission shall promulgate, under section 553 of title 5, United States Code, regulations to carry out this section, including regulations relating to the following:

(A) How an operating system provider can—

(i) verify the date of birth of a parent or legal guardian described in subsection (a)(2); and

(ii) carry out the requirements described in subsection (a) with respect to an operating system of such provider that may be shared by individuals of varying ages.

(B) Data protection standards related to how an operating system provider shall ensure a date of birth collected by the operating system provider from a user, or the parent or legal guardian of the user, to carry out this section and any regulation promulgated under this section—

(i) is collected in a secure manner to maintain the privacy of the user or the parent or legal guardian of the user; and

(ii) is not stolen or breached.


Very well hidden. Ugh. So close to a really good solution but ofc there is always a rider somewhere.

Fair point. Leaving the nature of verification open ended is not good and should be part of the legislation.

With the dawn of this bill I am finally building out my airgapped network.

I’ll be passing messages to and from the former internet using NNCP bundles. I’m planning to work on some interesting solutions for async communications over Nostr, with some alternate paths through radio for emergencies. Finally looking into steganography as well.

Hope to see you all there.


My coffeehouse running an obsolete consumer router and accepting only cash actually has zero record of who I am.

> obsolete consumer router

So your router probably belongs to at least 2 botnets, and I bet they have logs of your MAC, your browser fingerprints, and your comings and goings!


How many cameras do you drive past and walk by to get to the coffee shop ;)


This should be a pinned top comment.

With respect, a few people are indeed making that argument.

Many car haters constantly play this motte-and-bailey game where they insinuate that cars are evil and should be eliminated, then they pull back and say “oh no, we don’t want to ban them” when confronted. But it’s clear that some subset really would prefer to eliminate civilian vehicles.

I like smart urbanism and pedestrian-centric development, but the anti-car culture annoys me to no end. It is self-defeating. The average person in the US has a car, and likes having a car, so you should start every argument with that assumption. We made a lot of progress on improving pedestrian access in the early 2000s by focusing on a positive message. But I guess there’s no room for non-adversarial messaging anymore.


How is Bumfuck MT, population 250, going to support the infrastructure to live comfortably without a car?

as someone who lives there, they're not. Nor is that what is being suggested, it's critiquing car-centric cities where not having a car is needlessly difficult. Population 250 isn't going to ban cars, but the city may discourage driving and provide ample facilities for those who don't have a car.

Well I do agree that city living should not require a car, although cars should be an option for those who need them. I just don’t think it’s realistic to expect rural areas to discourage car use. Not everyone in rural communities has a car, but for many they are essential.

This is a regional problem. Legislation to require pedestrian accessibility would fix it.

Where I live every new development must build out sidewalks as a condition of permitting.


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