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This is such an exciting direction :)

Jeremy Howard from fast.ai/answer.ai also works on similar stuff with solveit (https://solve.it.com) and ipyai (https://github.com/AnswerDotAI/ipyai)

I think it will be very interesting to see what this enables


I mean what is the alternative here?

Mario maintains the project pro bono, which is only possible because he had an exit a couple of years ago. I believe it is a lot of work making sure that the quality of the codebase doesn't detoriate with the onslaught of slop that is hitting open source projects right now.

Additionally, I have massive respect for Armin and I don't believe Earandil is your typical VC startup that wants to grow no matter what.


Maybe Chris Lattner leaving and creating Mojo also didn’t help in that regard.

Swift for TensorFlow was a cool idea in that time …


Lattner probably left because Apple didn't give the team any breathing room to properly implement the language. It was "we must have this feature yesterday". A lot of Swift is the equivalent of Javascrip's "we have 10 days to implement and ship it":

https://youtu.be/ovYbgbrQ-v8?si=tAko6n88PmpWrzvO&t=1400

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Swift has turned into a gigantic super complicated bag of special cases, special syntax, special stuff...

We had a ton of users, it had a ton of iternal technical debt... the whole team was behind, and instead of fixing the core, what the team did is they started adding all these special cases.

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For this language to become default at Apple they had to be doing a massive amount of internal promotion - in other words they knew where it was going.

And then if that's the case, how were they not ready to solve the many problems that a big organization would run into? And all the schedule constraints that come with it?


To be fair, I think such a fate in inevitable for most languages after many years of changes and development.


> Swift has turned into a gigantic super complicated bag of special cases, special syntax, special stuff...

That's true, but only partly true. It already was a gigantic super complicated bag of special cases right from the start.

Rob Rix noted the following 10 years ago:

Swift is a crescendo of special cases stopping just short of the general; the result is complexity in the semantics, complexity in the behaviour (i.e. bugs), and complexity in use (i.e. workarounds).

https://www.quora.com/Which-features-overcomplicate-Swift-Wh...

Me, 2014:

Apple's new Swift language has taken a page from the C++ and Java playbooks and made initialization a special case. Well, lots of special cases actually. The Swift book has 30 pages on initialization, and they aren't just illustration and explanation, they are dense with rules and special cases

https://blog.metaobject.com/2014/06/remove-features-for-grea...

Of course, that doesn't mean that it didn't get worse. It got lot worse. For example (me again, 2020):

I was really surprised to learn that Swift recently adopted Smalltalk keyword syntax ... Of course, Swift wouldn't be Swift if this weren't a special case of a special case, specifically the case of multiple trailing closures, which is a special case of trailing closures, which are weird and special-casey enough by themselves.

https://blog.metaobject.com/2020/06/the-curious-case-of-swif...

Oh, and Function Builders (2020, also me):

A prediction I made was that these rules, despite or more likely because of their complexity, would not be sufficient. And that turned out to be correct, as predicted, people turned to workarounds, just like they did with C++ and Java constructors.

https://blog.metaobject.com/2020/04/swift-initialization-swi...

So it is true that it is now bad and that it has gotten worse. It's just not the case that it was ever simple to start with. And the further explosion of complexity was not some accidental thing that happened to what was otherwise a good beginning. That very explosion was already pretty much predetermined in the language as it existed from inception and in the values that were visible.

From my exchange with Chris regarding initializers:

"Chris Lattner said...

Marcel, I totally agree with your simplicity goal, but this isn't practical unless you are willing to sacrifice non-default initializable types (e.g. non-nullable pointers) or memory safety."

Part of my response:

"Let me turn it around: Chris, I totally agree with your goal of initializable types, but it is just not practical unless you are willing to sacrifice simplicity, parsimony and power (and ignore the fact that it doesn't actually work)."

Simplicity is not the easy option. Simplicity is hard. Swift took the easy route.

[...] when you first attack a problem it seems really simple because you don't understand it. Then when you start to really understand it, you come up with these very complicated solutions because it's really hairy. Most people stop there. But a few people keep burning the midnight oil and finally understand the underlying principles of the problem and come up with an elegantly simple solution for it. But very few people go the distance to get there.

-- Steve Jobs (borrowed and adapted from Heinelein)

https://blog.metaobject.com/2014/04/sophisticated-simplicity...


That is why I wish Apple to abandon Swift and continue to use Objective-C instead.

Also a reason why Craig needs to go.


Apple cannot admit they did wrong. That's like hardcoded in their DNA.


But they can silently drop their mistakes without ever mentioning them again, for example Garbage Collection, Modern Objective-C Syntax, Cocoa-Java.

While they will do this and just start treating the old thing as if it were brand new and shiny, it helps if they actually do have some new shiny thing.

Happy to rebrand Objective-Smalltalk into AppleTalk. The network protocol was dropped 15 years ago, so that could work.


AppleTalk Ultra


SwiftTalk

This is brilliant. Thank you!


It remains to be seen how much Mojo has learnt from that effort.

NVidia, AMD and Intel now have doubled now into giving Python GPU JITs, and Julia, the same capabilities as their CUDA, ROCm, and SYSCL offerings with C++.

With Julia and Python having their 1.0 long behind them.


Hey HN, I'm Marius, an AI researcher and radiologist.

I read a lot of ArXiv papers on my Kindle Scribe, but other tools for sending PDFs to Kindle completely scramble math equations and tables.

I built PDFling to bypass that. It just takes the ArXiv URL and sends the raw, unharmed PDF directly to your device via Whispernet.

It's a simple scratch-my-own-itch project, but I figured others here might find it useful.

I'd love to hear your feedback :)


So many people are so salty, it’s wild. That’s peak HN here


Very happy to see that I am not the only one. My pro subscription lasts maybe 30 minutes for the 5 hour limit. It is completely unusable and that's why I actually switched to OpenCode + GLM 4.7 for my personal projects and. It's not as clever as Opus 4.5 but it often gets the job done anyway


https://pdfling.com

A service to send pdfs to your kindle device through a chrome extension or web app.


Really enjoyed your talk two years ago :)


Add healthcare. Cannot send our patients data to a cloud provider


A ton of EMR systems are cloud-hosted these days. There’s already patient data for probably a billion humans in the various hyperscalers.

Totally understand that approaches vary but beyond EMR there’s work to augment radiologists with computer vision to better diagnose, all sorts of cloudy things.

It’s here. It’s growing. Perhaps in your jurisdiction it’s prohibited? If so I wonder for how long.


In the US, HIPAA requires that health care providers complete a Business Associate Agreement with any other orgs that receive PHI in the course of doing business [1]. It basically says they understand HIPAA privacy protections and will work to fulfill the contracting provider's obligations regarding notification of breaches and deletion. Obviously any EMR service will include this by default.

Most orgs charge a huge premium for this. OpenAI offers it directly [2]. Some EMR providers are offering it as an add-on [3], but last I heard, it's wicked expensive.

1: https://www.hhs.gov/hipaa/for-professionals/covered-entities...

2: https://help.openai.com/en/articles/8660679-how-can-i-get-a-...

3: https://www.ntst.com/carefabric/careguidance-solutions/ai-do...


> Most LLM companies might not even offer it.

I'm pretty sure the LLM services of the big general-purpose cloud providers do (I know for sure that Amazon Bedrock is a HIPAA Eligible Service, meaning it is covered within their standard Business Associate Addendum [their name for the Business Associate Agreeement as part of an AWS contract].)

https://aws.amazon.com/compliance/hipaa-eligible-services-re...


Sorry to edit snipe you; I realized I hadn't checked in a while so I did a search and updated my comment. It appears OpenAI, Google, and Anthropic also offer BAAs for certain LLM services.


I worked a big health care company recently. We were using Azure's private instances of the GPT models. Fully industry compliant.


Even if it's possible, there is typically a lot of paperwork to get that stuff approved.

There might be a lot less paperwork to just buy 50 decent GPU's and have the IT guy self-host.


Europe? US? In Finland doctors can send live patient encounters to azure openai for transcription and summarization.


In the US, it would be unthinkable for a hospital to send patient data to something like ChatGPT or any other public services.

Might be possible with some certain specific regions/environments of Azure tho, because iirc they have a few that support government confidentiality type of stuff, and some that tout HIPAA compliance as well. Not sure about details of those though.


I recently build a website for a medical practice using Astro.

I was amazed by how easy it was compared to my experience with Wordpress for this several years ago.

And I can host it for free on something like Netlify and I don’t need to worry about the site being hacked, like with WP.

I even built a very simple git-based CMS so that the client can update the content themselves.

Web dev has really come a long way, despite what a lot of people say.


Were you commissioned by a friend? How does one find a gig building a medical practice website?


I’m a doctor myself and thus have contacts to people having medical practices :)

But at least in Germany there are some agencies doing nothing else.


Be careful with Netlify. Their bandwidth charges are even more egregious than Vercel’s.


> Be careful with Netlify. Their bandwidth charges are even more egregious than Vercel’s.

$550/TB for those who want to save a search.


Yes, good point. Although the traffic for these websites is so small, that I think I‘m good there for a long time.


Until you get DDoS'ed and they won't let you set a billing cut-off -.-


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