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That's a great precedent! I hope the US abandons winter time, too.


Winter time is the standard time (i.e. based on solar noon).

It's summer time that is moved.

Maybe that's only in the US and Russia has the reverse?


As far as I know there is no such thing as winter time. Russia had standard time (UTC+3) in winter and changed to daylight savings time (UTC+4) at same dates as the rest of Europe. Now they decided never to switch back to UTC+3 but stay UTC+4, effectively making UTC+4 Moscow standard time.

As Moscows longitude is 37 degree East, they should really use UTC+3 as their standard time, but that's a different story.


More likely this will deter Congress from taking action, out of spite.


You simply have to present it to the Right in the way they can hear it.

"Are you gonna let a bunch of commies beat you in the modernization of time? We didn't land the first man on the moon just so we can be beaten out by savages with beet-powered potatoes!"


Lousy farmers...


Actually the farmers in my family have to reprogram their clocks twice a year to avoid DST, since cows are incredibly sensitive to their milking schedule and the twice-a-year hourly shift really screws with the herd.

I would go so far as to say that farmers hate DST more than programmers/sysadmins do.


Why do farmers bother they cows with DST, then? Can't they just get up at the same (real) time?


I think one of the problems is that the milk trucks and the rest of the industry do respect DST so if you lose one hour the milk might spoil. At least it's what I heard a farmer say on the TV a couple years ago.


Thanks. That's the first time I heard that argument considered.


This is where I get to offer a famed quote from one our politicians in Queensland, Australia, who was arguing against daylight saving when Queensland was considering adopting DST in the 1980s.

She said we shouldn't adopt DST because the extra hour of sunlight - and I quote directly here - would "fade the curtains".


It's probably not about farmers: http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4172


Okay, that was a bit too subtle:

http://www.snpp.com/episodes/3F05.html


Farmers work whenever they want.


And people haven't been using farm schedules to justify DST for several decades. It's now supposedly about electricity use.


It's about continuing to justify what has always been a bad idea of which the powers that be refuse to let go.




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