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Does anyone believe this will be expanded to grocery stores, pharmacies and other basic services come fall? My job is already close to pushing mandatory vaccination and I'm trying to decide whether I should pack up my things and leave?

30 year resident and heartbroken.



Do you really believe that mandatory vaccination is the start of some expansion of government checking on everything? I'm seriously asking, like you already need a drivers license to drive, you put in taxes and the government keeps those in a central database, if you have kids in school they need to be vaccinated in most places I read in this thread. Why would covid vaccination suddenly trigger some government panopticon? they already have so much information on you, why would this be the hill you die on?


If this is a good faith question that's fine. A health passport to buy groceries is the hill to die on because you are consenting to a lifetime of injections just to live.

No one should be under the impression that the next booster won't be mandated. You give these people an inch and they take a mile.

And it's also not a government thing. I would think that the White House is upset with New York's decision because they preferred private business restrict access to the unvaccinated, New York might have jumped the gun, revealed the play etc.


Thanks for answering. I do feel that government isn't anywhere near organised enough to exercise this sort of control. I've worked for a couple of different government organisations and they are in general, people who just want to do their job and go home. Like I'm not sure why vaccination cards would be the thing I'd choose if I wanted to control a population, that already has a myriad of different controls anyway (drivers license, tax records etc), when you travel overseas you already need vaccination records for various things, or when you send kids to school. The lifetime of injections is not guaranteed at this stage either, no doubt a better vaccine will come along. Thanks for answering anyway, I'm curious why this is such an emotional issue for some people.


Getting ready to leave my blue state home. Born and raised in California, but the autoritarian writing is on the wall, and I'm making my preparations.


Sounds like you're going to vote accordingly when you do, I hope.


I've been against the grain here since my second presidential election as voting age


Probably inevitable, although this fall seems a bit too early. Also probably unenforceable in many areas of the city.


It's a serious question. Why downvote? Because you think it's coming but don't want to warn people?




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