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And don't forget leaving from a stop uphill.


There are many techniques to start uphill.

In Italy the driving test is on manual transmission and many people use manual.

I trained in Rome, parking on the left side downhill (so backward is uphill), it was tough, but learned a lot of tricks in the process to prevent stalling. You also become very attuned to the clutch

I do love manual transmission, but the purpose is to have fun, not for daily usage.


Yes the clutch becomes your BFF. But can you really say that a manual is not for daily use ? It certainly helps when dealing with ice & snow.


I’m doubting the person in Italy has a need for ice and snow driving.

Where I am it might snow or ice once a year. However I do own an SUV that has a snow mode. It starts in second to avoid spinning the wheels and will let you manually cycle through the 8 speeds if you want.


North Italy has enough ice and snow driving, including compulsory wheel chains, at least while we keep having European Winters.


GP did mention Rome though.. There's snow and ice in the Italian Alps for sure, but in Rome? Hardly likely.


In Rome no, there is no snow, it's too hot.

The 3 times I can remember there was snow in Rome the city would completely lock, with cars abandoned in the middle of the road (picture post zombie apocalypse kind of thing), so you can't drive even if you want to, because there is no room on the road.


Literal Rome I don't think so, but there are places you can go skiing just a couple of hours from the city.


> I’m doubting the person in Italy has a need for ice and snow driving.

They have high mountains in there, including Alps, with highest peak at 2912 meters.


Mont Blanc (or Monte Bianco as we call it in Italy) is over 4800m.

But yes, plenty of snow in many many places in Italy.


I'm not implying that you cannot, I drove 10 years with manual transmission. I'm suggesting that if possible, auto would be better for daily use.

In the end, it's up to the person.


A lot of modern cars have an automatic brake that keeps your car from going downhill in those situations. Some are smoother, some are weirder, but it works.


Generically, that's called a hill holder, and there were pre-electronic implementations. My 1986 Subaru BRAT had one. I can't speak to how it was to drive; it never worked. The hill holder specifically, the rest of the car mostly worked.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hill-holder


I've rented a BMW a few years ago on vacation in Portugal. It had manual transmission and a system to prevent rolling back on hills. Those things are not incompatible.


Automatic transmission is much worse than manual in mountain roads and uphill. But I always forget that a lot of people have no idea on how to drive uphill with manual transmission.


Apparently I’m one of those people, given I had no idea this was a thing.

How is driving uphill in a manual different than flat driving in a manual? (Serious question)


They're talking about taking off when stopped on a hill. Pressing the clutch and releasing the brake will result in the car rolling backward down the hill until you get enough forward momentum going to take off. Newer drivers freak-out on the rolling backward bit.

I remember an earlier discussion on HN where different people around the world learned different techniques for preventing the rollback. I remember lots of Europeans saying that's what the parking brake is for. Here in the States we're taught to let out the clutch until it starts to bite and then release the brake. You may still roll backward a few inches but that's no big deal.


I actually enjoyed the challenge of that. The problem with stop-and-go driving, especially in LA where I made the transition to automatic, is that it can go on for a very long time. My left leg would get sore. Starting up a hill typically only has to be done once.


I got manual transmission in my alfa romeo and it behaves the same as automatic regarding uphill start.




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