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Stupid premise.

We already have exercise mimetics in pre-clinical trials. If you can keep yourself fit with zero expenditure of time, why wouldn't you?



The joy of motion and physical effort.


The parent means "why wouldn't you stay fit (either manually or with drugs)" rather than "why wouldn't you do it with drugs".


Parent specifically said “with zero expenditure of time”, which seems to imply the latter question


Because some of us have high levels of skepticism with that stuff. Even the GLP-1 inhibitors are too new to really get a handle on. The only proven methods to health are those that have existed before we ever came along: a clean diet and (good) exercise.

History shows time and time again that there are no free lunches in nature.


Not to mention, I love working out.

If anything, I need more reasons to leave the house. Not more reasons to stay inside and be on the computer even more.

I do agree that GLP-1s can't be a free lunch. It can't be that powerful for free. Even beyond that, we might not know what we are doing with them.

It use to be standard for testosterone replacement to get a shot from a doctor every two weeks. This is an unbelievably stupid way to take testosterone. Blasting a super physiologic level of testosterone and then crashing over a two week period would be a good way to amplify side effects if that were the goal but we didn't know what we were doing then.

It is very unlikely we would have just randomly stumbled on the best way to take GLP-1s out of the gate.


> I do agree that GLP-1s can't be a free lunch. It can't be that powerful for free.

Why? Life is not a morality play.


It wasn't a question of morality - we don't know what the long term side effects are.

Look if it helps a morbidly obese person drop enough weight so that they can get a handle on their A1C, blood pressure, etc. then it's probably (from what we know now) worth the risk. For the slightly overweight person who takes it, and I know a few from the gym, we don't know what that looks like yet.

It will take time to find out if there are long term detrimental effects.


> It wasn't a question of morality - we don't know what the long term side effects are.

But we actually do. And they seem to be all positive so far.

> It will take time to find out if there are long term detrimental effects.

It's been 20 years already from the development of the earliest GLP-1 agonists.


JFYI, GLP-1 agonists have been in research and clinical use for about 20 years by now.

And while medical chemistry moves slowly, I have no doubt that we'll solve the exercise problem within the next decades. Never mind by the time we're talking about ascending on the Kardashev scale.


Do you have any useful search terms for them?


"Exercise mimetics" are fine. You need to look at the professional publications. It's a very active area of research, so things change rapidly.

The newest research: https://jpet.aspetjournals.org/content/388/2/232.long

Here's a nice, but a somewhat obsolete review: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8728540/


Sometimes I think that is what metformin and statins do, because weirdly enough both seem to blunt the exercise response. I’d love to take them but I already exercise.


i assume EMS (electrical muscle stimulation)


No, exercise mimetics are drugs that stimulate the same biochemical pathways as regular exercises.




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